I did not get into the RCA: is that a good or a bad thing?!

After all the trouble the applicants go through to apply, to put a portfolio together, the logistics of sending their portfolio in and collecting it (mine was very big: I had to make a portfolio case because you can’t buy them as big as I needed, and I had to hire a van) – if we are unsuccessful, is it asking too much to be informed why?

Was it that they felt they had no one in the department who knows enough about digital art, digital and analogue photography, and natural digital painting – the areas I am particularly interested in? Do they even recognize this as a valid art form? Do they appreciate the amount of effort and skill involved in this art form? Are they relatively new to computing, and is their perception of computing so naive thet they think anything done using computers is easy? Is it just too new for them and do they feel they couldn’t support me at a sufficiently advanced level?

Of course it could have been that the selection panel’s consensus of opinion of my work was simply that it wasn’t good enough and showed no potential or promise. Or it could have been that with only forty-five places available, they simply considered that there were at least forty-five other applicants who were better or more deserving than me? I have no idea.

One thing we were told at the Open Day was that they were looking for applicants who showed a certain “need” or incompleteness: students who weren’t entirely sure where they were going. As soon as I heard this I started to doubt my chances… I am not in the least unclear about the art I am creating. This selection policy is at odds with scientific and social science disciplines (and almost certainly the other arts) – where academic establishments select the best on merit – i.e. those with the most promise, the most talent, and the clearest vision. What is wrong with being clear?! Surely the best artists are clear about what they are trying to achieve?!

Now that the whole process is over and I am no longer trying to get a place at the RCA, I can speak my mind freely. First of all I am not in the least bitter about the rejection – a bit disappointed yes, but not bitter. In fact it takes a huge weight off my mind – the pressure of how to finance it. I confess I was hoping to go there mainly for the kudos, and to have the time to explore new things. I certainly don’t feel I need direction, and if the selection panel think someone else would benefit more from studying there than me – that is their prerogative.

However, it does answer a few questions that I had… I spoke to a number of students on the Open Day and not one of them seemed to know what they were doing – artistically. One second-year student was really quite stressed out by it, and I really felt for her. What do they expect if they select students who don’t know what they are striving for?!

It wasn’t all bad: on the Open Day some of the graduate illustration and animation work we were shown (via the internet) was excellent – but then it would be if you pick the best of the last few years?

The exhibition of work-in-progress was outstandingly bad. It is no exaggeration to say that the whole exhibition wouldn’t have looked out of place in a secondary, or even primary, school art display. There was no display of talent, care, or pride of work (with the exception of some of the textile work). My jaw dropped when I saw it. With utter disbelief I said to myself “Is this the best of the best…?”

If this is what is taught in art colleges, if this is the standard that art students are molded into producing and praised for – then that answers the fundamental question I have with modern art: why is the vast majority of it so bad, shoddy, poor in work-person-ship and professionalism, and almost irreverent? Are the lecturers so embroiled with theory and the quest for originality – almost at any cost – that they have lost sight of what art is about? Art is not about pandering to novelty-seeking academics – who are so caught up in art history and theory that they long for new ideas to muse and pontificate about. Art is for society, it is a public discipline, and as such is judged by the majority – by the public. If it doesn’t communicate with the public in a positive way at some level then it has failed. Period.

A word of advice to aspiring artists, and you can take it or leave it. Academics are not wealthy people. They will not buy your work, or if they do, you will not get much from them for it. Think about who your buyers might be, and consider them, not you tutors, when producing work… If you get a first class degree or some other qualification and nobody buys your work because it is so obscure and inaccessible…

In closing, I would say about the buildings themselves, that they in no way lend themselves to art. They would be better used as offices or a prison: totally uninspiring and with very poor natural lighting. I don’t think I could have spent much time there…

I am not sure why the RCA has the kudos it undoubtedly has. What does this say about “lesser” art colleges…?

Comments

21 responses to “I did not get into the RCA: is that a good or a bad thing?!”

  1. Esai avatar

    Those panel people NEVER tell you why they won’t take you, unless of course they say some frighteningly obtuse things while nodding somberly, which makes no sense at all. At least it never has to me…. Art historians are a whole other bag of nuts, I have a suspicion that they’re all mildly insane…

  2. Lisa EllenRiley avatar
    Lisa EllenRiley

    Hi,
    I was just serching on google for people who didn’t get into the royal college of art and found this. I juat wanted to let you know that I found out last week that I didn’t get in ither and it is really annoying after you have gone to all the trouble of getting your portofeo ready and everything. I had applied to do an MA in painting. Hope everything works out for you. Lisa

  3. Lisa EllenRiley avatar
    Lisa EllenRiley

    Hi,
    I was just serching on google for people who didn’t get into the royal college of art and found this. I juat wanted to let you know that I found out last week that I didn’t get in ither and it is really annoying after you have gone to all the trouble of getting your portofeo ready and everything. I had applied to do an MA in painting. Hope everything works out for you. Lisa

  4. Michael Autumn avatar

    Hi Lisa,

    Sorry to hear you didn’t get in either. The irony is that we may have been too complete, too assured, too good… Who knows? We just don’t know what they are looking for. Art is very subjective at the best of times so it seems to me that the selection procedure is quite random or arbitary.

    What will you do now, will you try again?

    Best of luck for the future and just keep on with your art – someone out there is sure to like it – it’s just a matter of finding them…

    Michael

  5. Lisa EllenRiley avatar
    Lisa EllenRiley

    Hi Michael,
    Thanks for your feed back, yeh I guess we shall never know I emailed them to ask if feed back would be possible but they said they don’t do that. Im not sure what Im going to do now ,at the moment Im concentrateing on finishing my degree show work because Im in my final year of my degree in fine art at Nottingham trent uni. So after ive got that out the way I will have a look what my opptions are but I think I may appliy again in December. I don’t know really how many times to appliy before I shoud stop trying because my lecture told me that he spent years appliying and never got an interview. I work in a shop now part time so ill carry on doing that for the money and do my art on the side but I would really like to get a job that is something more to do with art. I ll have to see what happens .
    Lisa

  6. Lisa EllenRiley avatar
    Lisa EllenRiley

    Hi Michael,
    Thanks for your feed back, yeh I guess we shall never know I emailed them to ask if feed back would be possible but they said they don’t do that. Im not sure what Im going to do now ,at the moment Im concentrateing on finishing my degree show work because Im in my final year of my degree in fine art at Nottingham trent uni. So after ive got that out the way I will have a look what my opptions are but I think I may appliy again in December. I don’t know really how many times to appliy before I shoud stop trying because my lecture told me that he spent years appliying and never got an interview. I work in a shop now part time so ill carry on doing that for the money and do my art on the side but I would really like to get a job that is something more to do with art. I ll have to see what happens .
    Lisa

  7. Michael Autumn avatar

    Hi Lisa,

    I get the impression that you might think that getting into the RCA is the only way to succeed in art. That is absolutely not the case! There are many great artists out there who haven’t gone there. For my part I will succeed without them also.

    Bear in mind that the reason why you didn’t get in could be that you are too clear and confident in your art – and so perhaps they feel they have nothing to offer you…

    Wishing you a successful and fulfilling future,

    Michael

  8. diamondsandrust avatar

    Interesting Michael. I am an absolute beginner as far as Art is concerned,but have been highly influenced by someone who did get in. Having read your blog I think I now know why. His degree didn’t get him very far either and he was left fuming over the success of his friends who weren’t accepted.
    I have just started painting again-watercolours, after a lapse of forty years!! I was accepted at a minor art college in my youth but fate took a hand.
    Do you think I could apply next year? (grin)
    Diru

  9. Michael Autumn avatar

    Hi Diru,

    I think you have to be very clear what you want from the RCA. I think if you have very good artistic ability – i.e. you can create work at a quality you are happy with (honestly) – then you probably won’t learn anything new: I don’t think the teachers are there to teach technique…

    There are many courses on offer and I can’t speak for all of them; however, I think the general course objective will be that you will be challenged to create something conceptually new. So if you are keen on conceptual art you might enjoy it…

    However, I get the impression that they have a bias for people they can mould – i.e. younger people…

    Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

    Michael

  10. diamondsandrust avatar

    Thankyou for replying Michael.I find your work very interesting and think it good, especially your Gaudi project even if I dont understand or know much about digital art. The exactness it brings in capturing light and colour is very alluring.It is of course an art in itself but I can’t help thinking it’s cheating a little.
    I too want to be able to reproduce exactly what I see and am fascinated by the effect of light on a subject. I am a bit of a perfectionist and can quite understand how Van Gogh was tormented in the Provence. The course I am taking at the moment given by a Swiss Artist called Markus Desilvestro will I hope help me,although I fear he is a doer and not a teacher. I am amazed at his ability to bring accuracy, light,heat and and atmosphere into a watercolour with so few brush strokes. I just hope I can learn something from him.
    Realise that in my case it is about five to twelve but I will try.
    I’ll be interested in seeing what the gallerists will be selling at the Art Basel when it opens next week.Will think of your words .Diru

  11. Michael Autumn avatar

    Hi Diru,

    I would like to reply to one statement you made about digital art. “The exactness it brings in capturing light and colour is very alluring. It is of course an art in itself but I can’t help thinking it’s cheating a little.” The fact is “it” brings no exactness in and of itself – or no more than a ruler or a compass does. This is a common mis-conception. A digital piano in the hands of an untrained pianist is no “easier” to play or compose/create with than a conventional one, and the final result can be exactly the same; and likewise a word processor is no “easier” to write great works of fiction or non-fiction than a type-writer or pen and paper…

    I have being doing conventional oils and water colours for over thirty years, and I bring all that experience with me – in addition to a considerable amount of photographic and computer-based skills – to produce my digital art on a pressure-sensitive computer screen with a stylus/digital pen/brush. I feel that literally anyone can do conventional art – just like anyone can sing: it is just a matter of personal preference as to whom you prefer. My six-year old daughter produces water colours that would not be out of place in an art college exhibition, and if I gave her oil paints I have no doubt that she could produce paintings every bit as “good” as a Hodgkin or a Hockney…

    I spend more time on my digital work than I ever spent on conventional art; I have dozens of books on digital art and photography, several computer packages, extremely powerful computers, and ridiculously expensive photographic equipment and printers. The level of skill and equipment required to do digital art well is far, in excess of that required for conventional art: I should know – I do both…
    It all comes down to what technique/s is/are required to achieve a certain result. These techniques have to be learnt and practiced. In the end it comes down to human judgement, dexterity, patience, and skill. It is the same for digital as well as conventional art.

    I invite you to zoom in on some my work – especially something like “Casa Batllo G” – to see how much manual work – i.e. by hand – there is…

    Best regards,

    Michael

  12. diamondsandrust avatar

    Hello Michael
    You see it’s never too late to learn.Thankyou for the explanation.No need to worry about competition from me though as I am neither expert with computer nor camera,and have enough problems with “conventional”art.

    Unfortunately it is difficult for me to define your work exactly on this screen,but I’m sure it doesn’t do it justice.

    Good luck anyway for next year at the Academy.
    Please look into the Art catagory of my blog sometime,I might be making progress.
    Diru

  13. MC avatar
    MC

    i think you should consider that you didnt get in for a reason. not to be harsh, but what you are doing is very commercial and not really fine art. someone needs to say it, i am sorry.

    i know a lot of poeple who did get in whose work is very sdvanced, they have been in the field and successful for quite sometime before going so i dont think being too “formed” constitiutes a reason for recejtion.

  14. Michael Autumn avatar

    If by "commercial" you mean a lot of people might like it – then I absolutely make no apology! If you care to read some of my essays on aesthetics on my On Art blog, I make the point that there might well be a universal aesthetic with biological/evolutionary foundations – that we are biologically all very similar and show a great deal of conformity in our taste – even across cultures. The fact that a lot of people like a particular piece of art does not diminish or demean it: it just means that the artist has struck a chord with the human psyche – intentionally or otherwise.

    I do not set out to create art that a lot of people might like: I set out to create art that I like and that raises issues or techniques that are of interest to me – and which I feel might be of interest to others. Yes, I hope many people will like it, and I hope it will give pleasure and meaning to a lot of people. I find it strange indeed for an artist to produce art or music that doesn’t have these aspirations…
    Like a lot of modern classical music composers (especially the atonal variety), I think a lot of "modern artists" have lost the plot in terms of what art should be about – or they have been cajoled by the art-teaching fraternity into producing art where it is more important to do something new or original – regardless of its aesthetic qualities.

    Would you consider Mozart commercial? His work is very popular because he was in tune (pun intended) with his own and general human aesthetics. What would most people rather listen to: The Bee Gees or Schoenberg? What would you rather have on you wall: a lump of turd or a Dali…? It is easy, very easy, to create crap and shoddy original art: it is actually very difficult and skillful to create something most people will like, and which is complete, and polished. You pays your money and you takes your choice…

    I am deeply concerned for the future prospects of most of the students at our art colleges in terms of the likelihood of them making successful careers – producing the sort of art they are pushed into doing by theoretico-novel-seeking art college teachers – most of whom have failed in the real art world…

    Thank you for your contribution to this important debate.

  15. Robert S. avatar

    Hi Michael (and the rest),

    Just a few lines to say that you shouldn’t give up. I was rejected in the first time I applied and felt like asking the exact same questions. I applied on the following year and I got in. And, that didn’t keep me from being one of the highest marked students in the department. Sometimes, the criteria can change. Imagine that in your year there are a few people with an approach similar to yours… then you have less chances. The opposite is your chance. Imagine that your portfolio has the bad luck of being seen before lunch: it has much less probability of having a “yes”, then someone who “gets seen” after lunch. The mood of the tutors also influence the decision, obviously. So, don’t give up! Also, it is obvious that an MA is mainly for people who want to question their identity and explore other grounds. If you are sure of yourself and have narrowed your interest and want now to get deeper, then you should apply for research: either MPhil or PhD.

    Don’t give up, this I can tell you. I was rejected on the first year, but accepted as one of the top of the list on the following year.

    Good luck for everyone!

    1. Rebecca Wright avatar
      Rebecca Wright

      Hi Robert S
      please could you send me an email of your experiences at the college? I have applied this year, unsuccessfully, and still feel the need to study at MA level (I already have a BA), but am unsure whether I would fit in. I know David Rayson’s work, and like some of it, but feel a lot of the RCA work to be too obscure for my immediate understanding. Is this the right environment for me?
      My work is abstracted, expressive, informed but really needs some professional guidance, time and space to develop properly!
      I would be very grateful for a contact email.
      yours,
      Rebecca.

  16. Michael Autumn avatar

    Hi Robert,

    Thank you for your words of encouragement. I agree with everything you said – in terms of the arbitrariness/randomness of the selection process. I also think that it is a general reflection of where Art is today. I am getting more and more cynical about the Art establishment. Maybe I am just getting old, or maybe I am getting wiser…

    I would not re-apply on principle because I feel they were actually quite rude not to provide any feedback whatsoever – for what is after all quite a lengthy process – applying, creating a portfolio, and physically transporting it to and from central London.

    The most import thing for me is to do art and to display it in the best possible way. This is what I am working on. The RCA is technologically quite behind the times – which is no good for my kind of work. Indeed they may have realised this and decided they could not facilitate/support me…

    I am quite happy to do my own thing as and when time permits. The RCA for for an altogether different agenda…

    Has the RCA worked for you?

    MA

  17. Micheal Buyer avatar
    Micheal Buyer

    Dear Michael,
    it is an interesting reading, but I think you are using the term art and artist a bit too freely.

    Madonna is for the public, art theory and art is for someone who pursued an education or developed a deep interest in the field. That is because Madonna is catchy while that part of photography that lies in the realm of fine art can be appreciated on many different levels.

    Since you are interested in photography perhaps reading some books would help. I can recommend Photography Theory published by Routledge, a collection of essay wrote by various curators.

    hope that helps,

    micheal

    1. Michael avatar

      Hi Michael,
      I am sorry but I have not a clue what you are talking about. Can you elaborate? What is Madonna?

  18. j avatar
    j

    I don’t need this to be published, but after reading all the comments i just wanted to say this: I’m sure self-critical capacities are an important part of the selection process. An MA is about deepening of knowledge – only achieved by questioning, i think at a masters its not about acquiring skills anymore, but about finding new ways to think and create. I assume a lot of the applications are good in work quality to begin with, and from then on its not about needing to be insecure to get in, its about being able to be analytical, receive critiques as well as critiquing yourself, listening to others (understand and assimilate the input in a rational manner) and thus grow as an artist/thinker/person that way. I cant imagine a more disruptive element for a professor or a class than a student who thinks he knows better than them and the school.

  19. Geny avatar
    Geny

    Hi,
    I’d like to join RAC but i am not completely sure in what levels are needed to be accepted. I’d like to be an architect and i’m sure RAC is the perfect place for me. Please help me find out what levels are needed.
    Thank you, Geny

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